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‘s Joshua Holland, in an attempt to expose the “lies” peddled by the NRA and the politicians they own.

Specifically taking on NRA chief Wayne La Pierre‘s now infamous claim that “Good guys with guns kill bad guys with guns,” the veterans said that gun owners cannot simply will themselves to become heroes in high stress situations.

“I think there’s this fantasy world of gunplay in the movies, but it doesn’t really happen that way.

When I heard gunfire [in Iraq], I didn’t immediately pick up my rifle and react.

I first tried to ascertain where the shooting was coming from, where I was in relation to the gunfire and how far away it was,” said retired Army Sgt. “I think most untrained people are either going to freeze up, or just whip out their gun and start firing in that circumstance.

I think they would absolutely panic.” Many combat veterans believe that civilian “good guys” taking on the “bad guys” during an active shooting isn’t as simple as it seems in movies and video games.

Although more weapons owners are taking weekend-long tactical weapon training, that doesn’t instantly make a someone ready for combat.

Combat veteran John Parker didn’t attack the gunman at Oregon’s Umpqua Community College in early 2015.

Although Parker was armed and held a concealed carry permit, he stayed hiding in a classroom.

Parker’s years of training alerted him to the fact that opening fire on the gunman could likely do more harm than good.

“We could have opened ourselves up to be potential targets ourselves, and not knowing where SWAT was, their response time, they wouldn’t know who we were, and if we had our guns ready to shoot, they could think that we were bad guys,” said Parker, Ben Carson infamously criticized those in Oregon who stood by, claiming that he would have attacked the shooter with a group of people.

However, the GOP candidate fails to take into account that a “good guy” would have to overcome their biological instinct for survival.